#THE FACT IT DOESNT EVEN HAVE A REAL CONCLUSION REALLY SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE NARRATIVE
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clover-the-awesomest · 2 years ago
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OH WOW OKAY I WAS NOT READY FOR THAT SHIT AT ALL HOLY CRAP OHHHHHHHHHH MY GODDDD OKAY WOW YES GREAT WONDERFUL THAT IS SOME VERY VERY GOOD WRITING RIGHT THERE IT’S VERY DELICIOUS AND VERY GODDAMN EMOTIONALLLLLLLLL
I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA START CRYING BRO THAT’S HOW GOOD THIS IS
A little drabble I did after that one CAS update but forgot to post:
CW for Death mention, sibling death, sickness mention. Lemme know if it needs any others.
Leo stared at the pictures, glancing between the two of them. Comparing them. 
Future Donnie was big. He was huge, actually. Just like all the future turtles. 
So why…why did he look so small in these pictures? He just looked so…so frail. A sick feeling settled in his stomach, Leo somewhat putting the pieces together. But he just had to be sure. 
Casey said something next to him, but Leo wasn't paying attention. He didn't even look away from the photos, eyes boring into the one of Donnie looking particularly small. 
" what happened to Donnie?" He murmured, voice almost a whisper in the echoing, desolate base. 
Casey didn't answer for a moment, Leo's lip quivering a little. 
" You- you said that they all died- that everyone died and I thought- I thought maybe it was the kraang or fighting or  something, but- " 
Leo let out a shaking breath, accumulated dust moving with his breath, " How did Donnie die?" 
Casey moved to stand next to him, staring up at the pictures. He shifted uncomfortably, likely remembering it firsthand. 
" never mind, I shouldn't have asked-" 
" He was sick " Cj interrupted him, frowning, " he was..sick with some sort of krang infection. It…it took everything out of him…. he just sorta…. faded away"
Leo had put that together on his own, but…hearing it aloud made him feel nauseous all over again. He hated being right sometimes. 
" how did he get sick?" He murmured, fiddling anxiously with his belt, " I-I mean did he…did he have contact with the krang or..?"
His thoughts were racing. Because if it could happen to a future Donnie, and he had asked his Donnie to pilot the technodrome…..could that mean- Could he get sick too?
The thought had him squeezing his belt, hands trembling. A cold dread settled its way Intl his chest, the feeling like he had been dunked in ice cold water filling his very being. 
Had he sentenced his twin to the same fate as Future Donnie? 
[END]
Anyway this is all I was thinking when Leo asked what happened to F!Donnie ;-;
This is based on @somerandomdudelmao 's CAS comic!!!! Just a reminder for anyone who is confused
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bikingdon · 3 months ago
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you absolutely dont have to write this if it doesnt strike you, but i would love to see even a ficlet of eddie somehow coming to the conclusion that buck and ravi hooked up while eddie was in texas and eddie trying Too Hard to be cool about it. bonus points if eddie thinks ravi caught feelings for buck (why Wouldnt ravi catch feelings for buck??? i mean it’s buck. -eddie inner monologue) and regardless of if the hookup actually happened or not (cant decide which is funnier so dealers choice) obviously no feelings were caught and its all. very funny in the end.
i'm not entirely sure this is what you were going for??? but i hope you enjoy it all the same!!
“So, did you manage to stay out of trouble while I was gone?”
Buck laughs, a hearty thing that Eddie feels all the way down to his toes. “For the most part, I guess.” He takes a swig of his beer, letting out a slow breath. “I’m sure Ravi’s sick of me by now, though.”
Eddie pauses, beer bottle half way to his mouth as his eyes flick towards Buck, unsure as to why it feels like there’s a stone sitting in his stomach. “Ravi? He still on B-Shift?”
Buck hums, a noncommittal thing as his eyes are trained on the TV. “He ended up subbing in your spot while you were gone. We spent a lot of time together. He loved to pretend he hated it, but I think he enjoyed the company really.”
Something about the entire thing hits Eddie in the wrong way. Company. Like Eddie wasn’t lonely in Texas. Like he wasn’t actively sending Buck invites to Words with Friends everyday between trips. Like he wasn’t screaming see me in every way possible without saying it.
He fights to keep his voice even, bottle lowering to rest on his thigh. “Sounds like you two had a blast.”
“We sure did.” Buck laughs, thumb picking absent-mindedly at the label on the beer bottle in a way that Eddie’s always been secretly fond of. “There was many a night we’d leave shift together, grab an IPA and put the world to rights. Sometimes, oh man, Bobby would have us up together on station watch, and we’d get no calls during the night, and y’know what it’s like when all the chores are done.” His head tips back towards the ceiling as he grins almost to himself, a private thing that Eddie somehow thinks he shouldn’t be seeing. “I got to know him real well.”
Eddie’s eye twitches a little. He’s not jealous. He’s not. He has absolutely no reason to be. That would be stupid, given the fact that him and Buck are just friends and that he’s straight and that this thing between him and Buck has always been messy and complicated, and he was states away.
But Eddie, he’s never really claimed to be the most rational person ever.
He must’ve been silent for a bit too long, because Buck finally looks at him, his brows creasing together a little. “What is it?”
“Nothing!” Eddie assures quickly, standing from the couch. “Want another one?” He asks, nodding his head towards the bottle.
Buck’s brow furrows more as his eyes examine Eddie’s face like he’s looking for something. He’s just staring, seeing Eddie in the way he always does when suddenly he seems to find what he’s looking for, his mouth dropping open a little. “Eddie? Are you–”
“Same again?” Eddie interrupts, turning to leave when a hand closes around his wrist, stopping him in his tracks. He’d know that touch anywhere, wants to know it everywhere. Has felt it when he’s dying and has felt it when he’s more alive than he’s ever been.
Buck’s thumb brushes over his pulse point and Eddie lets out a shaky breath. It’s quiet for a few seconds, the TV humming quietly in the background before Buck says quietly, “Nothing ever happened, y’know?”
Eddie scrambles for a response, his mouth opening and closing a few times as his eyes are locked on the point where him and Buck connect before he finally feels brave enough to look him in the eye. “Hm?”
“Between me and Ravi.” Buck continues casually, like he’s discussing the weather, thumb tracing the skin of Eddie’s wrist. “He’s a good looking guy, but…” Buck’s brow furrows slightly, tongue poking out to wet his lips, suddenly more serious than he’s been all night. “I was waiting for someone.”
“...Who?”
Buck laughs again, a quiet thing as he tugs on Eddie’s wrist gently, like he knows something Eddie doesn't yet. “Who d’you think? I’ll give you one guess.”
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utilitycaster · 6 months ago
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I think in reference to your last post, BH fans are looking for a leftist power fantasy. I find the people who shat on C2 ending for being a "neo liberal mess because its 8 white people whocant be trusted" to sudden love BH and think these same 8 people are delivering this message. A messsage that has not been supported by the cast, the themes or the DM.
Some of the takes Ive seen since these final episodes have aired.
The world will have to listen to the people they didn’t want speaking.
But the world has been listening to them. Did they not stand in front of all Exandria and speak, gave their word layed their honour on killing predathos. Has Keyleth and other powerful npcs not listened to them? Who is stopping them from speaking?
matt is a leftist bc he was homeless, so the campaign abour that
I dont understand this take and anyone who spent anytime around real people know that 1 thing in your past doesnt shape your worldwide. Reminds me of ppl who brand themselves as X and filter shit they already liked and was going to do into a specific world view instead of really changing their habits.
Crowning jewel to support your point tho
Matt gave us a fantasy world and an oppressive setup and a button that does what a lot of us wish we could: pull the rug out from the entrenched, harmful Powers That Be & try for something better
Except, Matt nor c3 but in the work to show us an exandria as oppresive. The true powers that be are mortals, but BH dont seem to have a plan after the xampaign. You know putting the real work. Its like people crying about walkable neighbours but dont attend city planning meetings
Hey! So yes, all of these are true and are effectively what I've had in mind. I don't think it's worth coming up with new and creative ways to express my thoughts on the intelligence of these people again, only to reiterate that the issue is not that Campaign 3 subverts Campaigns 1 and 2 but rather expects the paradigms of those campaigns to be subverted without doing any of the work to actually do so - we have seen a single case of Vasselheim colonization that was oddly bloodless itself (the ley line nexus swap probably killed more residents of Hearthdell than the missionaries did until the town rebelled and attacked them - hold that thought) and has been treated as a widespread phenomenon with no outside evidence. People have started to point to Abbadina as being unfairly maligned despite Laudna calling the people there ignorant and entire situation a "pissant town in a pissant squabble" (3x61, around 3:40:00) and Abbadina saying herself she believes morality is innate (3x61, around 3:57:00), and, perhaps most damningly, the fact that Abbadina is, as a former Hishari member, undeniably complicit in the trajectory of Ashton's life for which they keep blaming the gods, because they refuse to blame their parents. Fitting, frankly, given that the fans doing this are the ones who have the unmitigated gall to demand strangers forgive Liliana in honor of their own parents in southern Christian cults without any self-awareness of the optics here. The widespread oppression they claim Bells Hells to be stopping has failed to be adequately outlined by the text, and I (and I think many others) believe myself to be more knowledgeable and intelligent than these people, so at this point it's like, either provide a well-crafted counterargument or shut up because I am unmoved by any personal attack.
We are dealing with fans who are devoid of empathy for anyone unlike them. I find it difficult to look at their ongoing derision, as white Americans raised Christian, towards so many fans who speak of colonialism as a tool to destroy their culture, religion included, and come to any other conclusion. They are so obsessed with defending their statement that the campaign they started watching before the moon plot was even revealed has suddenly conveniently taken on the current performative cause celebre buzzwords in their do-nothing social circles that they will gleefully mock the colonized to do so. No wonder they relate to this party of people whose main response to gaining power is to be a petty dick to people who haven't done anything unwarranted. No wonder they keep claiming the people they point a gun at are unspeakably corrupt for acting angry and frightened in response - for accusing people of the sin of wanting not to die when they want them to die.
I don't think they care about people or causes; they care about being seen as someone who cares about causes. They push the idea of automatically being leftist because of one's circumstances because then they do not need to make an effort, being (for the most part) queer and neurodivergent. However, this is the queer neurodivergent site so while those are obviously oppressed groups in the real world if you want to play oppression olympics in this space you're playing with about the same hand everyone else was dealt, and while no group is monolithic in their beliefs, there are queer neurodivergent nonwhite or non-christian or both people in the fandom who find Bells Hells to be entitled, small-minded bullies and those people are, again, targeted and mocked. It's not about belonging to an oppressed group unless you can be used to center the white ex-Christian who's furious that you exist as a reminder that they are not the greatest victim of Christianity and see you as an inconvenience to ridicule in the hopes you'll disappear.
I've been chipping away at some postcolonial texts myself, as someone who is admittedly not an expert in the topic, but I was struck by this quote from bell hooks (taken from the discussion of the subaltern on Wikipedia, but I've ordered the book it's from):
"[There is] no need to hear your [native] voice, when I can talk about you better than you can speak about yourself. No need to hear your voice. Only tell me about your pain. I want to know your story. And then I will tell it back to you in a new way. Tell it back to you in such a way that it has become mine, my own. Re-writing you, I write myself anew. I am still author, authority. I am still [the] colonizer, the speaking subject, and you are now at the center of my talk."
I don't think the cast are deliberately making an anticolonial or leftist work - I think it's just kind of a mess that has stumbled into a semi-interesting worldstate with a generally selfish group of PCs that people are reading their small and petty desires into- but if they were (and certainly if they themselves claim to be doing so), I'd have to say that quote applies. I certainly think it's applying to the fans. An Autism Speaks approach to colonialism, one might say. The reason those fans following Critical Role are here looking for that story and not an actual play with people from colonized countries is because Critical Role has a larger fandom and gives them more attention and permits them to be author and authority. Hypocrites and posers to the end. And yeah, they have no plans for a better world in Exandria or real life. That takes thought, and work, and that's for the people they spend their time jeering at.
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cupcraft · 24 days ago
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I think what really irks me about misogyny discussions on tumblr specifically is that there's less room to talk about how men can and are oppressors under the patriarchy. And no i am not a terf. I am a transmasc gender queer person.
Because first you have terfs who say this because they think there's some biological innate evil in testosterone and the Y chromosome to a, suggest that the patriarchy is not a social system (which makes it very easy to avoid introspection on internalized misogyny and the ways they contribute), b promote gender essentialism in a white supremacist and eugenics based ideology (ie note when they say DSD over intersex) (ie note when black women disproportionately are affected by sex testing in sports and masculinized by terfs), reduce womanhood to biological productivity under the patriarchy (ie suggesting real women can get pregnant excluding many women from the get go), and d of course the transphobia and transmisogyny that intersects with all of the above. And when they talk about men as oppressors they in fact do not mean it the way we should be talking about it.
And then you have men's rights activists or MRAs. And they dismantle this conversation but letting us know that the patriarchy and gender is socially constructed thus men cant be oppressors (the wrong conclusion to the argument). And they begin to repackage "not all men" to "men are impacted by the patriarchy and harmed too" and those that are terf aware "saying yoh hate men or fear men is terf rhetoric". Though certainly you need to be aware and internally cognizant of terf dogwhistles and the pipeline, this dismisses a lot of the conversation and overinflates that many feminists are terfs when that isnt true at all. MRAs also intersect with white supremacy and gloss over misogynoir frequently. MRAs also focus on men's activism and thus dont confront the patriarchy itself.
So why does this piss me off? In either case no one here is really critically engaging with what the patriarchy is and who is the victims of it. Women are the intended target of the patriarchy and yes that includes intersex and Trans people. And yes the patriarchy is constructed by systemic racism and ableism. Gender essentialism and bioessentialism is eugenics, and you cannot take the ableism out of the patriarchy when talking about it. And yes, it is a social system and that doesnt mean men are just magically not oppressors. Men are socialized to be oppressors under the patriarchy and non men are socialized to accept it and internalize it as immutable. Men are rewarded when they are oppressors under the system, snd its no coincidence a lot of perpetrators of intimate partner violence are cop husbands (yes, fascist police are in fact also agents of thr patriarchy).
"But...not all men!" <- if your mind goes to this argument you've already missed the point this removes our ability to discuss what the patriarchy is. Because even men who have deconstructed the patriarchy and are deeply allies in feminism, are still rewarded under thr patriarchy because it is systemic. They may still get a raise over a women coworker, they may have better conversations when confronting a boss than a woman coworker, they may still be believed at the doctor more than a woman, etc. The patriarchy permeates all aspects of every institution. That is what this power structure means.
And i think you need to all recognize majority of women feminists are not radfems nor terfs. They are women who are affected by the patriarchy and sure many of them may have internalized biases to confront as we all do. But them saying "i hate men" isnt really the issue we need to be focusing on, nor are they secretly cryptoterfs. If your argument that this is reductive activism that really isnt the point im making and generally women arent saying this in the form of activism, they are saying it as a statement thst translates too "i hate the oppression I have faced" such that it is to say it really isnt about "all men".
And yes, it is important to analyze how the patriarchy affects men and victimizes men too. But MRAs dont do this, they often do this to ignore the patriarchy itself by blaming feminists (primarily women) for ignoring men and causing the male loneliness epidemic and for not being nice enough to men and not being focused enough on men's issues (thus just parroting misogyny in a new way).
And i am not forgetting that trans men and transmasc people too are victims of the patriarchy in unique ways, as a transmasc person myself. There is a lot of nuance that needs to be centered when we discuss transness and patriarchy especially intersecting that with race as well.
But these are the good conversations we miss out on when its a black and white youre either a terf that hates men or youre someone who loves men and dont looknat the quiet misogyny i have (which are the louder people but not the majority).
So I guess this ramble is an desire for us to center feminism and to do better understanding the patriarchy. And i by no means am a sociologist or essayist im just a tired transmasc guy like rambling about all this because im both affected by it and passionate abojt it. And I do recognize there are many aspects of nuance that this conversation can go and I didnt think to put on this post and so of course you can add on and send me asks about it. And ofc obligatory terfs dni and other MRA misogynists bc I know youre not willing to critically engage in this.
Anyway rant over bye.
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scribbleteaaa · 29 days ago
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HI naegami-nagisa anon again this is officially just me rambling now UM anyways i just remembered naegami isnt actually together yet in the oneshot your wrote-- nagisa bearing witness to the naegami slowburn will-they-won't-they.... what do you think his reaction would be....i wonder if he'd even notice in the first place slash just brush it off and act oblivious to whatever romantic tension byakuya and makoto have going on simply beacuse byakuya said they weren't like that (even if he knows better)
or if he does notice and actually starts trying to wingman in his own subtle way (and by wingman i mean just find an excuse to leave the room whenever naegami is having a Thing because this kid probably doesnt know anything about the nuances of romantic love and thinks the best course of action is to leave and let them bang, probably.)
which then worries makoto so they try to hang with him more and nagisa is just wondering why they're trying to self-sabotage his wingman-ing. he should probably asking somebody who knows how this all works
SPEAKING OF.... i wonder whose taking care of the other warriors/how the other survivors feel about the kids.... nagisa maybe asking his old friends what to do about the naegami slow burn if they ever get to meet up again and the thh survivors accidentally overhearing lmao
UHHHH anyways thats all i have (for now) HOPE YOU'RE HAVING A GREAT DAY sorry for spamming your inbox!!!!!!!!!
Ok YES I think about this a lot… I think first you kind of need to consider Nagisa’s perception of his own parents and their relationship with each other- the idea of his parents is so fascinating to me in that like. What they did to him is obviously insane and terrible. The fact that one person came up with that and actually carried it out is terrible. But the fact that there are two of them?? How the hell did that even happen??? Like, one of them had to come up to the other and propose this idea and the other seriously just. Went along with it???? Really makes you think about what the hell was wrong with both of them and what kind of relationship they possibly could have had where they very much did successfully attempt to raise their children like video game characters for yearssss before getting stopped. In that sense, I’m sure they had a lot of trust in each other, I guess, maybe? Did they love each other?? Maybe in their own fucked up way…. but in conclusion I don’t imagine Nagisa ever had any exposure to either a), what a normal loving relationship is supposed to look like, or b), what normal parents or family units are supposed to look like, which majorly influences the way he interacts with makoto and byakuya once they take him in. The whole makoto-byakuya-nagisa family unit is really unconventional in that regard because two of them don’t really have much perception of normal family dynamics and are repressed enough that they tend to just stay with what’s more familiar and comfortable to them instead of drifting closer to makoto’s own expectations of a family (not to say they don’t at all, or that many of the ways that they do that are necessarily bad- I think from the outside, the way byakuya and nagisa interact might seem odd or even cold, but it’s very comfortable to them and they really understand each other in a way no one else does).
I think maybe it Seems like nagisa is oblivious to it because he doesn’t really bring it up at all, but I think my real boring lame opinion is that he just doesn’t really care-I think he’s pretty aware they’re a little closer than friends from the jump, but at first he really doesn’t care much either way, and by the time he Does come to care about them, he still doesn’t really care about the semantics of it all, because they care about each other and he doesn’t feel any uncertainty about the future of their relationship as in them like, splitting up or anything. Most of the naegami yearning is silent and drawn out, and it’s really not dramatic or disruptive enough to have any negative influence on him- they don’t let their dumb relationship bullshit affect him too much, and even if his parents aren’t technically together, he still feels significantly more seen and secure with them than he ever did with his own parents. 
And I think it’s worth saying to that the way he views them is probably a little more fluid than strictly parents, especially at first- he acknowledges them as his caretakers, but it takes a very long time for him to really view them as his parents, partly because he’s resistant to accepting their help and partly because his own relationship with what parents are supposed to be is so skewed. He treats it a lot more like a professional relationship- a little too formal, for example, because it just feels more comfortable to him. Like, I don’t think he ever directly calls Byakuya dad, or father, or any kind of equivalent, and I think this works really well for them because of each of their daddy issues and the word just kind of being a little tainted for both of them and not really something they’re aiming to replicate, even if they don’t view it like that quite so explicitly- In conversation, Nagisa will say ‘my dad’ in reference to him, but to him, he’ll always just refer to him as Byakuya. Which is all to say I don’t think it really bothers him at all that his parents aren’t technically together, although I think by the time they finally are he’s happy for them. I imagine that happening a while after he’s moved out, though. Byakuya and Makoto get a couple decades of pathetic yearning and codependence before they’re allowed to get together. 
…at the most I DO imagine the warriors of hope gossiping about it a little…. Nagisa won’t really bring up whatever the hell is going on with byakuya and makoto unless someone asks him specifically, which the woh are nosy enough to do. Something funny about nagisa completely deadpan saying something like ‘yeah I guess they’re both my dads and they sleep in the same room but they’re not together’ and masaru is like bro does nothing matter to you
As for the other woh… It’s kind of hard to figure out where they would all go because there really aren’t that many adult characters from the dr games not living off on a remote island to hand them off to…(and even then, I think it’s worth noting that byakuya and makoto are already pretty young to be raising children, and the age gap between them is only like… what, 8 years? Which is a whole nother thing with a lot of interesting implications and that I’m sure has a very significant influence on how they all interact) Like, I might really like the idea of kazuichi raising Jataro, but it doesn’t really make much sense for one of them to be off on jabberwock, and I really hate the idea of separating them. No matter where they end up it feels non negotiable to me that the woh all stay really close… you don’t go through all that bs together and NOT come out horribly codependent on each other for life. So I don’t really have a lot of set ideas about that, but I love talking about who could raise each of them so you should totally let me know if you have any ideas….
ALSO don’t apologize about messaging me I literally love yapping about these guys it makes me really happy that you want to talk about this stuff!!!! Rotating them in my head constantly
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morn-yvri-winters · 7 months ago
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Fun CogDis Fact [+ Some Theory Crafting & Regards to Lore itself] (STORY SPOILERS... for a 15 year old fan-game)
So i was doing some data mining (as in looking inside of the game files for fun to see how the game ticks and works, and boy howdy let me tell you, RPG Maker 2003's UI scares me, props to Otherhand for navigating through these... many variables, numbers, & symbols going on, because it honestly overwhelms me) I had learned that:
Cerue appears in the Maria & George Magicant Flashback as one of the background Gieegs behind the windows. While this most likely is just a matter of reusing sprites, it should also be noted that not all Gieegs in the "allthegoogs" sprite sheet actually get used. Like, i want to say around 3/4ths of them actually ever get used (there are a total of 4 Gieegs in "allthegoogs".
(UPDATE 1: She's actually present for one more scene, i think? For whatever reason, her event handler has two pages but she appears for both pages, from what i can guess, she is meant to be the Gieeg that appears during the sequence where Maria & George are walking down the hallway [i think i want to say when George wants to show off the mental amps to Maria, since they share similar variables "0049: maction", which is meant to be the activation of an event via some number inputted by some handler)
(UPDATE 2: Yep, she is present for the scene when George & Maria head to the giant vault door to then breach using the Mental Amplifier Device, yet she doesnt seem to look, which could mean Otherhand forgor to make her turn or she wasnt meant to be there)
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Another fun fact, the two Gieegs (referred to as goog 1 & goog 2 internally) that appear when Giegue has his overstimulation moment by Maria's Melody are actually using Giegue's Sprite Sheet (referred to as "Newgiegue")
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(a part of me wanted to say its probably due to Giegue being the only "stock-standard" looking gieeg to have a moving sprite, but that isnt even remotely true since the gieegs from "allthegoogs" ALSO have walk sprites as well)
...the fact that the misc googs dont get used here either really feels like there was some manner of implication there by the dev. Personally i feel like its meant to imply that this is Giegue's actual parents but that would be a MONSTROUS conclusion to jump to, especially when there is ZERO mention about the BG Gieegs other than them appearing in scenes and the "(They're watching)" interaction.
Actually, the only real plausible theory to make here would be that Cerue was around for the Human Caretaker Experiment/Goog's Arrival to the Solar System. I mean, the fact that she knows about Giegue and refers to him as an anomaly, seems to imply she knows a LOT more about Giegue (as in a majority of his history/biography) than what the player already knows (who he is, what he is, what he becomes, etc.), in addition, she has a Starman in a chamber and seems to know about their origin/capabilities, even calling their transformation into Starmen a mistake yet compliments the design itself.
Which reminds me of something else, the timeline of events in CogDis which are awfully questionable in terms of order (at least for 1 to 4):
"QUESTIONABLE" TIME OF EVENTS
(190X) - The Gieegs arrive to the Solar System and successfully neutralize the Martian's Space Station's Inhabitants to ensure they have the element of Surprise on their hand.
(190X) - The Gieegs arrive to Mars and engage in war against the Martians. They are successful in doing so and assimilate the Martians into their Army/Empire as the "Starmen" (?).
(190X) - Maria & George find Giegue out in the wild, they are then kidnapped and Maria is supposedly in a mini coma for over a week??? Regardless, George & Maria take care of Googie (also George works out some arrangements with the Gieegs to make sure that everything is comfortable to their liking).
(190X) - 2 or so years later, the event occurs, Maria gets Magicant'd and George runs away with the Mental Amplifiers.
(190X -> 198X) - Mother 1's Back Story involving George's Return to Earth occurs and eventually leads to the events of Mother 1 itself (also apparently PSI spreads out across Earth itself?).
I refer to this as being "questionable" as I am highly unsure as to whether or not the Gieegs were the only ones present on the Mothership OR if the Gieegs had done Mars dirty, assimilated the Martians into their Army as the Starmen and then went to Earth.
Personally a part of me wants to believe its potentially the former, as them getting pissed off at Humanity and taking it out on the Martians seems fitting in terms of MOTHER/Earthbound Logic (problem is that this wouldnt really align too well with the Mars' Data Log).
However it might actually be the latter considering that the Gieegs come from outside the Solar System, and by this time the Martians are the only one with a Space Station/Satellite, them getting neutralized by the Gieegs feels fitting, as the Gieegs themselves REALLY dont like it when another race has PSI (or at least, if they do, they dont like them being a potential threat to their goals, whatever THAT may be).
[tl;dr version of this paragraph, either they got super pissy and took out their hate on Mars or they are the equivalent to the Viltrumite Empire from INVINCIBLE and neutralized Mars so nobody would know and potentially warn others who about their arrival]
(now im thinking of the "THINK MARK! THINK!" meme in my head but with Giegue & [insert fitting character role here])
(Also if you're wondering why i've come to such a strong assumption about the Gieegs, it mainly has to do with a friend of mine bringing up a really good point when i was discussing lore stuff about my sona's world (aka the one in my pfp and which i have a ref sheet to), that being "Why would a race that seems peaceful, need weapons of mass destruction to defend themselves? That would imply that they aren't peaceful in the slightest or have blood on their hands." and it sorta stuck with me. Like, the best example I can currently think of is: An alien race comes down to Earth and says "we come in peace" and then pulled out a nuke and vaporized an entire forest after one deer spooked them; thats sorta what the Gieegs feel like to me whenever i think about them now, CogDis obviously doesnt make them peaceful and afr kind of 'shifty' but Official Mother (Game) Lore never actually quite describes what their intentions even were in the first place, only that they were afraid of Humanity having access to PSI and that Giegue needed to stop them)
Actually, i find it even more weird as to what could have possibly had occurred to the other Gieegs. So if we were to go by the theory of "Cerue being around", then there was probably at least... Three to Four unique Gieegs total?
(Hell, maybe there could of been even more aboard the Mothership for all we know, considering that when Maria is running through the halls, she mentions that the aliens on board all sorta just looked at them without stopping them, never brings up if they were just other Gieegs or what, just that they were being observed)
We know Cerue could have potentially disembarked at some random point (maybe potentially after the Human Caretaker Experiment OR after the Mars Invasion, depending upon which happens first) and goes into hiding on Mercury, basically collecting various creatures from around the Solar System (some either being alive or dead).
We do not know what happens to the other 2 to 3 Gieegs except that they were present for the Human Caretaker Experiment & The Invasion of Mars, as they were most likely responsible for the majority of opposition & were described as being all-powerful by the Mars Super Computer's City Records, so I imagine only a few were needed to take over.
Giegue is the only one around on the Mothership (excluding Niiue) but doesn't know where Cerue went.
(...potentially, Niiue's dialogue about him knowing that she doesn't want to meet him could imply that he's referring to his true identity as Giegue & knows that Cerue possibly sensed him but as Giegue and not his own unique being, which is why she said she only trusted the Applechasers [the main 4] and doesnt try to erase their memory).
(WARNING LINKS LEAD TO FANDOM WIKI, CARRY A BLOCKER) Oddly enough, the fandom wiki for Earthbound has a really interesting tidbit of a theory regarding as to what Giegue's Race even was or what may have happened to them (since after Mother 1, Giegue's People gets ZERO mention), mentioning that after he returned to the ship, he may have ended up killing his people in a fit of distress & deterioration before eventually transforming into Giygas, but its fandom wiki so take it with a tablespoon of salt.
(if youre wondering "why not use WikiBound?", it mainly tends to be game information rather than like, external media information..? Idk, i personally feel like i found more substance to Giegue's Fandom Page than compared to his WikiBound Page)
something i will mention however, is that the fandom wiki uses a lot of information from the novel for Mother 1 (apparently?) as a means to sorta fill in information regarding events that occur between the games. Also its the only wiki with a page regarding Giegue's Race, also this really cool illustration of the Mothership:
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Anyhoot, I'm done rambling now, i just sorta wanted to share this because it was on my mind. Gonna stop now before my brain overheats and combusts from thinking too much, also i am hungry, its lunch.
(UPDATE, 12/23/202X, I've realized Cerue's Sprite has different opacities, which might mean that she's been sticking around quite a bit when George makes his discoveries & when the two escape)
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cloudysarts · 5 months ago
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knocks on ur door politely…..
how does mabel’s muse au go abt her relationships?? the angst potential…..with bill enabling her selfishness and chaotic tendencies, i imagine dipper getting more and more aggravated w her as time goes on……which leads to him mentioning mabel as a reason why he wants to be ford’s apprentice and agreeing that, lately, bc yeah she’s been a bit much this summer and he thinks some time part would be good for them. having mabel overhear her twin saying those things + ford saying what he said in ur art ,,, it just pushes her further into the trenches of bill’s manipulation. since u said she met bill early like after the pilot, i think stan would be used to mabel acting the way she does w bill and all, even if there are the occasional red flags. but dipper, having known her since birth, ik u said he thinks bill isn’t real but he has the journal full of warnings of bill and i think he’d be rightfully suspicious of mabel’s supposed muse…..idk i think he’s a curious smart lil guy who would have a gut feeling abt what’s going on w mabel and her muse. i do like the idea of him thinking bill’s just an imaginary friend tho!!! just him thinking it’s another mabel quirk or something is plausible :O! how often does bill possess her body? he doesn’t hurt her like he did w ford, right? since he needs her to trust him and all….. :3
AH this is so well thought out!!!!!!!! first of all thank: thank you for taking interest in my auuu im SO happy that so many people like it so much!!!! im gonna try and address all the points you made so bare with me sjhkdfhjksdf
dipper ABSOLUTELY gets irritated with mabel as the series progresses. especially since, at the beginning, he doesnt believe in bill, so the fact that mabel is blaming a lot of her childish actions on something as silly as an imaginary friend bothers him A LOT. he wishes shed just take accountability (which later leads to him trying to take accountability HIMSELF, which backfires, bc he just ends up way too critical and self-loathing. at the end they find a healthy middle of taking accountability and also not beating yourself up). i honestly didnt even think about ford still offering the apprenticeship but in hindsight i can SO see ford using that to try and convince him to come aboard!!
in this au, bill isnt depicted in the journal. ford never mentions him by name/draws him out, other than little hints (dipper does raise an eyebrow at the author also calling a being 'my muse', and starts to theorize, but never gets to come to a concrete conclusion before the truth comes out anyway). i think over the course of the story he DOES come up with a bunch of theories on what the 'imaginary friend' could be, really, but they all fall flat. itd be a fun little b plot to the main story if he were trying to investigate various creatures to see if any could fit only to never be able to figure it out
bill doesnt possess her body very much (if at all) and definitely doesnt hurt her when/if he does!! he really just doesnt NEED to possess her. on the rare occasion that he does, its not as self-serving as it is with ford or dipper in canon. like i can see her letting him use his body so she can stay up later making her sock puppets or stock piling mabel juice or something jhksfhjksdf. since he doesnt have any real reason to want to destroy the journals, he wouldnt have to take over anyones body in sock opera but he might just for funsies.
heres a now non-canon interaction that popped into my head and i wrote down back when i was first developing this au :)
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OK i think thats about it HKLSDFHJK thank you for the askkkk!!!!!!! :DDDD
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psychojetcocktail · 1 year ago
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Alright, since my previous post about Vulpes was so positively perceived, heres a long post going more into detail about how I genuinely believe all members of Caesar’s Legion to be representative of real life romans.
I mean obviously a lot of named legionaries dont have a backstory in-game or are even mentioned outside of you interacting with them, but some of them, like Lucius, Aurelius, Vulpes, Lanius and (obviously) Caesar himself, are very similar to some actual real life people.
Like for example I’m gonna start with Aurelius. Yes there was in fact a roman leader called Aurelius, but Marcus Aurelius has not that many similarities with our in game character. Sure in a way he is helping Caesar rule, but as we can all tell and see Edward doesnt have a triumvirate. However, Aurelius is in a way similar to Octavian Augustus, the way he is put to sort of mirror how Caesar(Edward Sallow) rules, but on a smaller scale. (also, he looks very very similar to Octavian Augustus)
(I will take a moment to apologise because I am very barely educated on Sulla so, if anyone was hoping for an in depth analysis of Lucius, im sorry. However their identical names and even their facial features are similar too)
Lanius too has similarities to roman leaders like Nero and war tactician Hannibal, with his brutal and extremist approach of handling things. He also is similar to Nero since even if he didnt get chosen at random, people still regretted their decision to have him as a leader in one way or another.
And of course, Vulpes. He too was raised and praised by a man named Caesar. Told he was part of his family he doesn’t have, grew up around him and learned everything he knows from him. But the stoicism and sort of indifference he shows after Caesar dies(if you botch the surgery) has lead me to believe that he never fully cared. Yes sure I’m not here to only defend Vulpes’ actions and say he did no wrong. But it is very obvious that Caesar never treated him well, never showed him what he expected out of him. Vulpes has only been given orders to kill and to pillage since he was a child. And hate this man all you would like, people are still people.
In more ways than the way he was brought up is he similar to Brutus, he obviously cannot kill Caesar because killing him would have him exiled, and clearly he cares about the Legion so that would be a bad idea. So he waits and when you finally kill him, you can even see a tonal shift in his speech, the words he uses, he is obviously relieved to some extent. I dont think I’m just stating the obvious right now, so if you didn’t understand what I was getting at, thats fine. But I really do see Brutus in Vulpes, always have, even the way their names sound, even the way they both look, and I’m talking about the Vulpes depiction with white hair, he has a haircut similar to how the romans would wear it.
In conclusion, why do I think Brutus and Vulpes are so very similar? Because they both want to get rid of a man named Caesar and they both don’t want to do it to become leader instead.
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wretchedghostoftheattic · 26 days ago
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What does canon media get right and/or wrong about you? (Or, how different are you from canon?)
Is there anything canon never showed that you remember happening?
Do you have any memories you visit a lot?
I feel like for danganronpa canon is wrong about a lot of things but not many me related things. I guess the whole komaeda OVA is generally "wrong about me" in that it tells a story that directly contradicts what i sorta remember but like. It feels wrong to say the ova is wrong because what most people are getting out of the substance of the OVA is not "nagito had a dream in-between the game and the anime while he was in a coma and also he was the last one to wake up, people get really interesting character analysis on my opinions and ideals about big picture things and like. Ive done some growing up since back then .
Oh i guess the "first meeting" between izuru and i in the anime? Its very funny how we interact like. Twice in canon, both times being framed as a first meeting . But even stranger that i feel like the ingame one is right and the anime one doesn't feel right somehow , but i also have memories of izuru from between those two points in the timeline. You can chalk it up to memory issues or intentional memory manipulation or maybe its multiple timelines? Idrc
Hundred line is a very different case because ... hold on lemme do a read more
who i am as a person just generally, quite closely lines up with the metaphorical mask canon Eito puts on and pretends to be. I frequently look at canon me doing things that im like : yeah i didnt do that, and definitely would not ever do this for these specific reasons hes doing this, but i did in fact have the same backstory that led him to do this at one point i think, and the execution of the atrocities has a very me-flavor to it now doesn't it? .
Since the game has one hundred equally true timelines one of them might explain my memories and things but im not counting on it or anything. I also am a firm believer in there being a trace of the true self embedded in the false self and vice versa, so like. Idk you can definitely play hundred line and come to many wrong conclusions of me but like canon isnt wrong im just not that version of me, and i dont think the even split between the "false" and "true" version of that version of me is as clear or real as he wants you to beleive and has convinced himself.
WITH THAT SAID. ROUTE ZERO HAS A FESTIVAL THEMED PARTY. I remember having a festival themed party like that and we had a festive mask booth or whatever . I remember Yugamu and Takumi wore them a substantial amount of the time and kurara picked one up when her normal mask went MIA, which was very cutesy. I do consider it a blunder of the studio that we see kurara maskless during the aftermath of the party and she doesnt do that with a festival mask , and also that yugamu didnt seem particular passionate about the party. I know that was his favorite morale boosting activity we held.
Lately ive been revisting a series of memories of Yugamu and Darumi being my tasting crew when i tried to make cute pastries. I would have given up on baking if not for their weird asses liking my fucked up breads that looked like roadkill
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agender-witchery · 6 months ago
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I think the fact that tcoaal is so controversial is a testament to nemlei's ability as a game designer. she originally just set out to create an edgy game jam project with as much shock value as possible. but over time it grew into something more than she would have ever thought would be. the writing between the two is intense. far more than almost any other video game characters ive ever seen. on the topic of incest, i think moral highground people are coping when they say that the incest in the burial route is optional. after seeing the new devlog and putting everything into perspective, its a core foundation of the game and the characters. its not a simple "haha they fuck" kind of a thing. its a slow painful burn that begins a long time before the events of the game. their upbringing left them feeling like the only good things in the world were each other. Andrew has had these feelings for her for a while, and ashley is not unaware. she has her suspicions and doesnt seem to mind them, so long as it keeps andrew with her and is willing to do anything to make him happy and this is a deeply fucked up dynamic. but heres the thing, thats what really drives the nail in the coffin. the two capture the intensity and turmoil of toxic love to a perfect degree, and its like watching a trainwreck you cant look away from. i think no matter what, theyre destined for each other. and they will either be all or nothing. i didnt play this game for a safe advertiser friendly "cookie cutter" adventure. go big or go home. i cant wait to see the ultimate crescendo that everything has been building up to and everything in between, whether its a violent finale where they finally have had enough of each other and murder-suicide, or where their love ends in heartbreaking tragedy. i want to be left scared, traumatized, and left feeling like ive been hit with a precision shot to the heart.
I feel like the writing also gets way more competent in episode 2 as well, which like, yeah it's no longer a quick game jam project, so it can be a lot longer and much more well written. A lot of the edge that was used in episode 1 to kinda pad things out for the game jam is dropped in episode 2 as the story becomes more complex and the characters are explored more deeply. It's still there, but the ratio of actual content to irreverent edginess is better.
And even in episode 1, the incest is an unavoidable part of the story. It's one of the few things that's always treated with 100% seriousness in episode 1. It reaches more of a fever pitch in episode 2, and especially in Burial, but like, let's go through the episode 1 CGs real quick. Not even bothering with the text because I'm too lazy to boot up the game and there's like 3 instances of relevant text for this that you can't miss. Putting all this under a cut for people who don't wanna get slammed with a 20 foot long post.
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First off we have Ashley waking up on the couch after passing out due to hunger, already in her brother's lap. Too early in the story for any conclusion to be drawn, like this isn't particularly weird, but it is noticeable on a replay. Andrew consciously put Ashley in his lap before she woke up and is twirling her hair here as well, so, yeah.
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I'm not putting all the CGs for this one scene here, but like, Andrew has a nightmare, Ashley tells him to get in bed with her, he does, and then this is what we get. There have been a couple instances of unavoidable text at this point like Ashley's comment about getting pregnant and the flashback where they murdered Nina, so this plus the previous scene is like, yeah no this is incest.
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When they first leave the cultist's apartment, there is absolutely no reason Andrew had to put his hand on her shoulder here. He had already pushed the door shut, this is just entirely unnecessary.
Gonna choose to skip the one where he has her pinned against the wall because he's threatening her, but like, it happened. Also gonna skip the bit where he chokes her out in 302 because while there are certainly some artistic decisions going on there, I'd be typing out seven paragraphs going over the nuances of everything that's said and done in that scene.
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And this is what we end episode 1 on. I would not call this normal sibling behavior, especially not with all the rest of what goes on in episode 1. There's a lot more in episode 2, even if you go the Decay route, and obviously there's a ton of dialogue too.
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look guys there's something weird as HELL going on with aziraphale. all three minisodes we saw gave us an insight on how his brain works and his beliefs and everything and how it leads to him making the choices he's made. right.
crowley said something weird has been going on before the attack and we know he has a sixth sense for these things but WHAT IS IT.
i think i REALLY REALLY THINK there's going to be flashbacks to season 2 scenes in s3 and we'll get context and ohhh moments. like.
1. at the mystic shop crowley puts his cap on a snake. maybe just a sneaky nod to how he was wearing a cap but maybe something more?
2. i think the way metatron says "how predictable" and when he says "are you going to take it" so deliberately. they're huge huge clues i think. i feel like the metabitch knows something i dont which pisses me off.
3. i dont understand why the job scene was shot a little different to other ones and also why crowley and aziraphale sounded so different from the scene chronologically before and after that we see in s1. except maybe the seaside bit the whole thing was. definitely odd. and its also mentioned again and again and again. biggest question i have and also one of the biggest foreshadowing in the show is the job quote from the matchbox. what is that WHY IS THAT.
will we realise parts of the job scene were fake or left out and see in s3 how the line was relevant.
4. WHAT does metatron want from aziraphale sooo badly that he went to the trouble of going through his entire earth file and carefully construct manipulation plans a through to z to convince aziraphale to come up.
unless he was unnerved that they together blocked gabriel from him and left him in the dark while actively trying not to do something powerful and he wants armageddon 2 so he can destroy earth because he's the bad guy. and he cant even feasibly start on that as long as aziraphale and crowley are together/friends/as long as, metaphorically, the bookshop is theirs.
(the bookshop wasn't 'theirs' by the time crowley left i think. they'd sort of mentally given up on that which is why at the end muriel could enter without permission i think. if the south downs thing ends up being canon then maybe the bookshop will be destroyed for real because otherwise at the end they would end up at the bookshop)
5. look one of the most terrible thing in the whole ep6 was aziraphale not paying any attention to crowley in the beginning of the confession. he's really really flustered and there's a heartwrenching theme of him staring out of the window. he's absolutely terrified of the metatron seeing them and half his mind is on him.
aaaaaghhhh losing my fucking mind. you could almost hear the quote about the straightforward love life when crowley looks at nina and maggie. that feels like a conclusion kind of? like a really happy ending just like beelzebub and gabriel had. they're both good and loved. which is why i dont feel like we'll be seeing them majorly again... maybe we will i hope we will but idk. there's.
season 2 was soft gentle romantic definitely but it was also a sherlock holmes level of mystery. except we're at the start of the story when holmes doesn't get all the facts to solve the mystery.
also random not plot related questions.
why does the sandwich woman blink so much in the seamstress scene and why does aziraphale blink so little during the last lift scene. these probably dont mean anything other than the womans mascara got in her eye or something
how does the bentley play classical music which doesnt change for aziraphale but doesn't do that for crowley? is it love i hope its love
why does aziraphale's face do something odd when he leaves crowley to talk to nina ep5? or am i reading too much into it? he was very forthcoming with the rest but with nina he was sort of quiet (?) and reserved and went away looking uncomfortable.
why did aziraphale want so badly to drive crowleys car? was it meaningful or connecting to him? i know a lot of people say the dont hesitate to ask me any questions about love scene was aziraphale giving crowley horny eyes but i thought he seemed itching and really eager to get the keys? why does he want them sooo desperately. i don't fully understand their relationship which makes me WANT TO. what happens to a person when they spend six thousand years with their only friend and companion being a hereditary enemy, watching every single thing they do?
also why was he willing to give away a book and bribe out a book for the meeting? seems overboard for someone who doesn't really seem to think about heaven checking on nina and maggie. i think tbh it had less to do with heaven's suspicions than aziraphale being the kind of person who would love an excuse to host a night of dancing and food and love (mood) and he even got to participate by dancing with the demon he loves instead of just watching! (though i suspect he really likes that as well). hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
guys the brain rot has set in someone tell me im not imagining things
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dekusleftsock · 2 years ago
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I have to say that your post on Deku peddling a lot of casual homophobia and toxic masculinity across the manga, was really interesting and eye-opening. I mostly agree with you, except the part about bkdk supposedly being the endgame for this particular arc. I've had similar thoughts about how gender and sexuality is portrayed in MHA, for quite a while, but the conclusion I always came to, was more along the lines of "Reject Masculinity; Embrace Lesbianism". As I've just stumbled upon this blog, I must therefore ask: how do you feel about transbian Deku hcs?
Oh it’s so fun! Trans lesbian deku is awesome, I love all trans hc’s so much.
Unfortunately though, I am also a bkdk shipper and my opinions in that post are about my genuine thoughts that, yes, deku is a cisgender gay man, and there’s no real problem with that. Welcome to my blog though!
A lot of my posts do focus on bkdk and togachako (while mainly togachako for the past couple of months), so that’s just your fair warning! If you aren’t into that it’s like… kind of impossible to avoid that shipping on my blog. I often post fanart and metas/shitposts that focus on those two ships solely.
And I will say, I feel like the notion of “rejecting masculinity”, especially as a trans masculine person myself, does often fall down anti trans rhetoric and spaces, as lesbianism and masculinity aren’t even necessarily contrasting things to be. NB is an identity that can be stretched so far into so many spaces that it’s kind of hard to reject masculinity OR femininity without well… falling into exclusion.
I’m not sure if that’s what you mean though, however I do enjoy most if not all trans hc’s because they are amazing and so interesting when people really dive into a characters internalized issues having to do with that identity. Transgenderism is so maleable and can easily apply to so many different types of characters, even giving them a deeper sense of depth.
Canonically though, I think I like Izuku how he is. Because everyone has issues, and while cis men have obviously had a lot of stories where they are the center of attention, told from their perspective, Izuku is unique in his own right; because how often do we really see a short, androgynous, emotionally expressive, cis male character deal with things like the insecurity of crying, the unknown of if your identity (if it really is your identity) will be accepted in spaces where you have been pushed to be with, from your perspective, a platonic female friend? Because yes, izuku WAS bullied—rather indirectly with Katsuki sure—but the little comments made about being a crybaby, being creepy, being weak, they all build up. They build and build until, hey, the bully isn’t there anymore. In fact, the bully is you.
And really, I see why people don’t necessarily pick up on Izuku of all people having masculinity issues. When the viewer sees a momma’s boy who’s relatively soft and empathetic, they register someone who vaguely understands themself. They see him be self sacrificial and think, “that’s a man who goes against masculine stereotypes, so obviously he doesn’t struggle with fitting into the stereotype himself!” Because it’s not what we’re usually shown in our every day media.
A man with masculinity issues is someone who is SUPER masculine—he’s super buff, he screams a lot, he has anger issues, he—oh wait I’m describing Katsuki.
Yet, in reality, Katsuki actually DOESNT! Not as much as Izuku does anyway. In middle school? Sure, most definitely. He registered weakness and refused to accept himself, therefore his masculinity. The anger issues build and build on each other… except for the fact that we’re forgetting the key here.
Katsuki grew up.
Katsuki HAD to grow up because the way he expressed these anger issues (that I will say, izuku also shares, the crying is literally a symptom of that in a lot of cases) was much more prevalent. It stopped him from truly growing, and when he was humbled he was able to see all the mistakes he was making. And slowly but surely, he apologized. He sacrificed. He started to really, truly, care.
He always cared of course, seeing as he cared enough to try to stop deku from getting into UA, because he thought he was a threat. Hell, after the entrance exam at their first day of UA, he genuinely thought Izuku had enough heroics in him to make it past the entrance exam! He didn’t think Izuku even NEEDED a quirk to get in. He’s always believed in him.
Was that expressed through his insecurities? Yes, because he was a dumb 15 year old.
But now that he knows he cares, that’s allowed him to reflect on himself, and on Izuku.
Izuku ofc will change, he will grow up, he will get that character development, but he has to have that realization that, oh, Katsuki really won’t hate him for anything. Ever.
Whether Izuku has internalized homophobia simply because Katsuki isn’t a girl, or because he’s afraid of Katsuki’s rejection at Izuku’s weirdness, well, I guess that’s up to your interpretation.
Mine is personally on the second side though.
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ngmn2002 · 2 years ago
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Ch 109: Random thoughts (part 2)
Part 1 ...
Continuing with the court, the last case is...
Yugi Tsukasa.
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The amount of cuteness! What a harmless kitty! Does he look like a criminal to you? He is so innocent! He is no criminal! Such innocent face hadn't and won't ever comment one single wrong thing in his life! ♪
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...........
Look at him. Little mew mew. That's what I call the guy who is really truthful and says whatever he has in mind. A guy with no secrets as he puts it. ☆ you're keeping some huge facts to yourself still, am I wrong? Should we 'question' them to get an answer?
The 2's reaction though... it's so funny.
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Wow. So now it's not only Tsukasa who made some kind of Akane expression but Hanako too.
Tsukasa's words about his assistant...
I wonder if Nene caught any meaning behind it? Her wish stands in sharp contrast with sakura's wish? For sakura's wish to come true, her own wish of living is no more? For her wish of staying alive, sakura's wish is no more?
Would she recall a thing of this sort?
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And question her fast made 'wrong' conclusion of their 'talk'.
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I will have hope she would. She won't forget it like she forgot Tsukasa is a yorishiro and didn't recall it or thought of the fact one day it will be his turn when he took her to destroy No.1's OR that moment Tsukasa said he needs the yorishiro destroyed for sakura's wish to come true. at least think of your own life span 'wish' Nene.
It feels kind of funny when I see something like 'Tsukasa goes all the way when he works on granting a wish'. That's true but... it's not like what he is doing there is only for her sake. He said a part of the truth but didn't voice it all. That's the catch. He has his 'own' motive out of doing what he has been doing so far.
Speaking a bit further into it, neither Hanako (now or ch 96) nor the keepers (Teru being a Minamoto for that matter, who knows lots of secrets behind the school) paid real attention to sakura being mentioned, unlike No. 6. I wonder if that means she is directly involved with appointing 'him' as a mystery only? Or if she has some kind of past interaction with him or him case in a way since she is aware of his story with Sumire and was the one in charge from behind the scenes of the No.6 yorishiro situation.
It feels the other mysteries don't hold any ties with her ruling over them or whatever or even know her? And having Tsukasa mentioning her, he must have known better than to do that if it will attract unnecessary attention for a one in her 'position'. Hmm....
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This thing... uhhh... this boy... this boy... this boy... he gives me lots of work. ♡ 3-2-1... let's go...
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Lovely
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curious
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kitty. ♡
Is he sitting on books btw? That's funny.
Have to say... Tsukasa's deal with the clock had me laughing a lot... it feels like he hates it... or even... it feels more like despise really. He wants the clock to be blown to smithereens. Wooh! Maybe since it gave both him and especially Amane a hard time.
Come to think of it, we can make the picture a bit wider...
We can start with a yorishiro destruction, leading to a brilliant boundary 'falling apart' wonder if he is curious to see what will happen once he is destroyed with Hanako's boundary
Moving to a destruction of a clock...
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So while Amane was trying to fix the clock he was thinking: how would it look when it's destroyed into tiny pieces? Showing that almighty face? ♡ ........
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Now I have to say some nice writing decision it was to have Tsu going to see the ruins of the clock. ♪
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Look who's pleased with the outcome. Happy for you my dear. You got to see a thing you've been waiting to see for so long. And, got rid of a thing you despise. ~ Enjoy your victory. ☆ Hmm, is it safe to assume he went for kaku first to git rid of his ability of turning back time? He doesnt want things to be undone. Meaning, he wants things just the way they are now with the clock (or kaku's power of turning back time is annoying in general). I wonder what would come of the students and the people around the school then
Following that line of thought, I can understand Tsukasa in this issue but...
The thing I wonder about now with Tsu-clock relationship, is apparently his want to have Nene using it to time travel. Why did he tell her about the usage of the clock when he wanted it destoryed even since back then? What did he want to accomplish in there? Nothing was shown to be done on that regard. And... I think he really might not actually care much to use the clock to have Nene time travel, he has the nowhere space under his command and already used it to make Nene do so. So... the clock is not really needed! Expanding the image a little bit... the 'clock' keepers...
Perhaps he has a thing against them themselves. I wonder what they may have done to get him to feel that way...
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Seriously, Amane's whole deal with the clock (and maybe 'deal' with the keepers themselves?) is ....... I still can't get rid of what Tsu said to Nene about the future and past blending together in that festival. So... what if Amane got to actually 'do' something, resulting in what Tsukasa talked about, yet the keepers 'kaku' turned back time anyway and made whatever he did go to waste? Or maybe something across these lines... something serious happened back in time, right?
Hmm......
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Then a school...
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And,
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The world itself.
What a force he is. ♡
It makes sense. He despises this unfair word and sees it not needed, so whatever factor to keep it up and support it is equally unworthy, unneeded.
A world that holds people back from doing what they want and to be who they are with its unfair rules is better off broken. Especially, when it's a matter of a person who means the world itself to him.
"It's said the annihilation of a civilization is as brilliant as fireworks"
In this case a world let's say. Hmm, who loves fireworks? I hope he'll be getting the fireworks he must be waiting to see. ~ if we were to assume the world will get 'destroyed' in the literal meaning creating such a 'view'.
Speaking of Tsukasa's wants to do/see things... this arc has some nice stuff included...
He fantasized about creating an artificial human ever since he was a child and got to see it as 12 y.o Tsu even before creating it, and granted created him in the future as yorishiro Tsukasa. Same goes for the clock, 12 y.o was interested to see it destroyed and granted got that as yorishiro Tsu. I wonder if back in the time he was still 12 y.o Tsukasa he also got to see/know the clock will be broken in the future some way or another like he came to see Mit 2.0 (let's take the glimpses of the future he told Nene about as a possibility). Maybe it was yorishiro Tsukasa instead who knew the clock will be destroyed in the near future...? This boy has some further knowledge into things so I like to keep that in mind. ☆
I do wonder if he has any other things he looks forward to in mind. Amaze me, Tsu. ~
Ahem, back to the 'court'...
So, the keepers made the judgment of having Tsukasa to be 'guilty'. For real? Only Tsukasa is guilty? What a funny court, what an idiotic court. Why aren't they so smart? Seriously, I was hoping to see the keepers much smarter than this! Like, just simply, the 4 guys in there, NONE of them actually made the action of breaking the clock, yet... the guy who did it is... apparently not guilty, nor the one who led Tsukasa and the guy to do it in the first place. What a joke of a court. So, the table turning on them at the end is a well-deserved result. Kinda funny, it felt as if the whole 'order in court' and the court itself... was never 'ruled' by them at all but actually 'him'. He left things go by assumingly as they want but he was just waiting for the moment to turn the table upside down. How sly of him. He is truly something, huh? No wonder he was having fun at the start of the chapter. What a force he is.~
Their suggestions feel to represent some stuff, actually... Akane.. 'feeding'. Just imagining how powerful these owls would get out of it. XD
Kaku... well...
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WOW, Tsukasa! Do you plan to put Kaku to use somehow? lol wonder if kaku regretted his last words like no. 3
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Cool to see this thing referenced once more in a way. I'm so weak to this sly smirk Tsuuu!!! The confident gaze!!! Uhh!!!
Wonder how was Amane feeling in there. I mean, sheesh. I wonder if he himself wanted to go wild on the keepers. Seriously? You don't know who you're saying you want to feed to the owls or turn into a gear or turn to dust. That's his moon and yorishiro mind you. How dare you say such things and intend to harm his precious prize possession.
My, cool Tsu is something to get me... she came to him by herself. Now, I think that's what I call one great mastermind, 'ruler' and the master of his 'games'. He played with them all and made them his puppets, that's so funny. He targeted their clock, yorishiro, then them from the start. ♪ He already had things figured out, everything was held in the balm of his hand. ☆
I mean, I have to say I've been wondering how will he take things after ch 108, but here we are.
Depending on Tsukasa's words after taking Kaku down, I have to say he proved his nimbleness, and being one intelligent strategist. ☆
It sees he had 'targeting the keepers' in mind for some time, and was waiting to take action, and little Mirai gave him the opening he needed. ☆
I wonder when that came to his mind, after singing with Nene, he wanted to go back to searching and was annoyed with Mirai's tickings. He got captured, then assumingly had to get 'free' with Nene's help and later Hanako's. Here I will stop, was he acting all along to be 'weak' by any chance?
Let's see... Mirai's 'seal' doesn't hold anything on him, it's either it doesn't affect him at all or it did, yet he can break free whenever he wants but 'decided' to look weak. So, he was acting or pretending to be vulnerable. Was he testing if Amane would come to save him by any chance? Was he going to actually save himself and Nene if that didn't happen? He let Hanako get captured just like that so his plan will succeed wizard Tsu vibes I'm telling you, what a mischievous lil bro. hehe oh... if he let Hanako get captured too so it would look like a small game of you didn't free me so I didn't help you. we're alike in the situation! pffft. what a fun soul
He can use Kokujoudai, and can master his OP strength. What a lie you told Nene Tsu. It can still be the truth, at that moment he was under the effect of the seal for real, but in the court he simply broke free. Anyway, some slyness lies in there. Even Nene is not supposed to know he is not actually 'weak'. How careful. He doesn't show anything to you, unpredictable. Always this way with his plans. The inside of his head. ~~~~ So Tsukasa, huh? ♡ ~
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Now I know why. You amazing boy, you only give up limited access into what's inside of your head. No one gets you better than yourself. Me and myself.~~~
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Cause you're not smart enough to catch up with his level of smartness. Try harder to understand him and how his mind works you self-proclaimed I read minds girl. ~ I will have to give him an extra point if what she said has a sense of truth and even with such powers, she can't read into him. Admirable. ☆
In the meanwhile, I'm siding with this guy! ♪
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Let's keep working hard into getting to know him better! ☆
Going back to the chapter... I'm laughing Hanako really didn't need to set Tsukasa free. He can take care of it himself. Even without his sly move of making little Mirai move the time of his handcuffs forward. He will get what he wants, whenever he wants, however he wants. ♪
Hmm, he is admirable. Fascinating. Who doesn't love a mind like his, or a smile like his? Or even some strong gaze like his? We have a guy so capable and full of himself right there. Love his fast way of acting and dazzling confidence! Easy on me, Tsu! ♡ ♡ ♡ speaking of his physical speed again, I will have to remind myself he still had that thing around his ankle. and that by itself is...
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Uhh, fangs... his sweet sweet fangs... sly smirk... boy!!! ♡ goodness, past + present Tsu will seriously have me spinning around myself. Hey! Don't look like you're working together to me! I can't survive one, how about 2?!
Thinking that Yako is a foxie... between her and Tsu... who is the real fox? ♪ it's funny thinking the fox took her down first, now.
Please… mercy on me… Tsukasa's sly laid back, carefree and relaxed capable confident persona!! Yes, we have such a calm and relaxed guy yet he is a force! ♡ ♡ ♡
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The king on his throne! Carefully putting his masterplan puzzle pieces in place. Glorious. ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡
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Tap. Tap. Play with my heart. ♡
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Straight forward, right to the goal at full force. ~
Where is my heart? I don't feel it anymore? It's in your hand you captivating enchanting guy? Okay! ♡ listening to Cascade's song dangerous while writing this. it randomly played and wow, have to say some parts of it are fitting for such glory. Give me a break, Tsu-force! Or don't! Uh, I can't decide because of you! ♡ ♡ ♡
Funny, Tsu showed me all the animals I associate him with in one chapter. first a cat, then a fox and later a powerful unmerciful tiger never to be underestimated or messed with. Wow. ☆
Hmm, he still kept his words of 'gentle with girls' huh? Even though she wasn't 'gentle' with him now or even back then, he didn't harm her really. Just had koku hold her. Wonder if that will keep up once he turns his focus to look for the yorishiro in her.
As for Kako, I dooo wonder if he previously intended to start with him, moving time back will be annoying. And, just maybe... a payment for embarrassing and making jokes of big bro earlier? Or again... is there a chance Tsukasa despised not only the clock but the keepers on a personal level in the past (and now)? Hmm...
Hanako's shout to Tsu to stop, I wonder if it was out of his fear for Tsu's well-being and safety or actually the other way around, he somehow saw what happened with No.3 coming and shouted at him to stop. He knows how powerful Tsu is, right? Looking at it either way is cool, one he sees Tsu powerful, the other he is concerned about the safety of his precious Tsu. ♪
Tsu being 'impossible to control'... I find that chaaaarming about him! He is free-willed! A force moving his own way, thinks his own way, sees things his own way, follows his own beliefs and works things out his way. Truely Fascinating. ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡
However, I will have to say I used to believe if there is a person Tsukasa will listen to, it will be Amane. that's how the story made me think, chapter 108 too, and the magic AU kinda. 'wonder what's the inside of a ghost is like/wizard' Tsu -I saw him a lot in Tsu this chapter!- was a force no one stood a chance against until Amane called him and he acted like a good little boy I had it in me Amane can tame him… but… it seems it's to a certain degree, too. When Tsukasa wants a thing for real, he won't back down even if Amane told him to stop? Hmm… I find that charming, too. And it's still cute when he listens to Amane… uh… both ways are nice! ♡ ♡ ♡
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You're WOW! ♡ What a lovely curious mind you have. ~
So, was the ticking Tsu heard coming out of little Mirai's clock only or also her 'inside' as well? Kako seems to have these 'tick tock', and back in their first arc, wherever Mirai goes there is also ticking. Do they also 'tick tock' with their clocks? Never expected the keepers to be this kind of creatures. Hmm... wonder if they work like robots and can get fixed? I see Tsu might have interest in there? Some experiments? They feel similar to artificial humans in a way? But maybe he won't be too interested?
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The ending!
I wonder if Tsukasa is referring here to Akane or little Mirai? Akane was naturally standing near Tsu and it seems he is looking at Tsu but Tsu is looking ahead of him (not at Akane who is beside him), perhaps at captured Mirai? Hmm...
It's worth mentioning it looks like he went for the first clock keeper in charge aka kaku, then following this pattern, he'll go for the second keeper aka: Mirai. Then the third aka Akane.
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I see she has a potential of having the yorishiro within her.
So, I wonder together with Tsu what's the inside of Mirai is like!
As for Akane... will he try stopping time? Instead of holding his clock he is holding the little hammer? Won't work on him, Akane. You saw that. Unless little hammer has other uses beside that seal or attacking? Does he intend to free Teru? He is the one who sealed him. I wonder if he can free Hanako too, since he wasn't the one to seal him, but rather Mirai.
Teru... to think a meeting between him and Tsukasa was so waited by the fandom... what was his reaction to seeing Tsukasa just going that way before his eyes? His definition of 'Evil spirit' shins in there. Mr. Teru??? How are things going by you? I think he may seem far more dangerous to you than Hanako you're chasing? Now, if Teru knew Tsu is Hanako's yorishrio... I assume that won't be good news for hanako, for many reasons...
I wonder if AidaIro intend to have something go on between the 2? Now or on later stages. They never paid much attention to each other this chapter, beside the time Tsukasa commented on Teru.
I do wonder how the next chapter will 'play' out, will they have a some kind of fight with Tsu? Hmm... maybe things will take a whole different turn for Akane and the rest, maybe Tsukasa as well. Anything can happen. ..........
Just having the possibility of 'the yorishiro might also not be within any of the 3' is funny. You might need to come up with a second back up plan Tsu. Will that be the case?
If things came to an end with the past and future keepers gone... and the yorishiro got destroyed... I wonder what would come of Akane's 'contract' with them. Will he be free? Return to be a normal human with no supernatural abilities? Will he feel happy to finally be free? I mean he showed he was tricked into working for No.1 and was furious about the fact. I wonder how he'll react, especially when things might come to his promise of healing Aoi's hand, as a normal person he really can do nothing I think? Hmm... his feelings might be contradictory somehow... ..........
My mind even decided to have the thought of 'what if we can repair the keepers'. Thinking about Mit 2.0, he can regenerate by eating weak supernatural representing the way he is made. The keepers seem to be like 'robots'? If their pieces were to be replaced or put back efficiently together somehow, would that bring them back in shape? or even, what if kaku was smart and careful enough to previously put a replacement in his place? I need to see the keepers being a threat. I want to see how much of a force they are. While I do want to see Tsukasa having his victory, it will be fun to see him overcomig a few hurdles.
Hmm... anyway! The conclusion we got out of the chapter simply is...!
At the end, the court was his to rule and master. ~~~
Hmm, well... after all he is the guy named...
Tsukasa.
What a lovely name fitting for him. A perfect match for a perfect guy. He makes me so proud of him. ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡ ♡
I think we've reached the end of our talk about the chapaer on this note. Tsukasa, please! ♡
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Thank you my dear! ♡ ♡ ♡
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Adding this fun continuation as part 3 real quick!
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Shhh, let's leave him to his card house building process! Think your plans calmly, Tsu! Good luck! See you later. ♡
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Ok, here we officially reach the end of the messy chapter review. Too many thoughts to list...
Thanks for reading! Until next chapter!
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mr-aftons-rotting-pussy · 10 months ago
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sighsss see like......... idk. i hink its more of a moral thing than like, having actual evidence for it. and also i think its people also giving William a lot of the benefit of the doubt, considering we dont actually see what evens death does to william thru his eyes, personally. hut still smth abt this conclusion just doesnt !!!! sit right with me !!
first even if we dont see it from williams eyes i do still think his actions can be very telling as well..? and i just cant recall any precedent being set about..... williams remorse....or guilt orrr grief or whatever? like i just don't think thats a part of him we see in the games. so when people put that onto him it just feels like.... like WHERE did this come from 🤨 ?
whereas we HAVE seen. williams egotism..... and even disregarding the stuff we get that more evidently reflects this even just looking at his actions earlier in the series yknow???? yknow????? and i think its just, more likely of a thing to...... put in that. like slot ig if that makes sense . like it makes marginally more sense to attribute his child resurrections to the ego r whatever of it than anything else.
but also its just likeeee !!! like we'll probably never really get a clear cut THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT WILLIAM AFTON THOUGHT AND FELT ABOUT THIS EVENT: (and this is excluding the books since i havent read the big novels so i cant say anything particular about his characterization there) yknow what i kean though???? well jever REALLY KNOW the kind of impact evans death had on william to the T. i can just say for certain its just really off to me......
AND. NOT TO MAKE THIS ABOUT MOVIE AFTON but i think this also proves my thoughts abt him???? like literally all of them?????? wr never ONCE see him like wracked by guilt and while we dont get an EXACT motivation for killing ppl i like .
like people r so obsessed with figuring out EXACTLY whats wrong with him and EXACTLY this and that that i think people miss the point. Severely. much like in real life its not as simple as, 'well this thing happened to them so this is why their evil!' people are EXTREMELY. EXTREMELY NUANCED AND COMPLICATED. and again WELL MIST LIKELY NEVER GET AN EXACT REASON WHY HES LIKE THIS. AND I DONT THINK WE NEED TO AND tbh i think itd probably make him less realistic and compelling.
William Afton is a serial killer, hes a serial killer who murders children. he does not need a deep psychoanalysis n whatever shit, again like REAL LIFE SERIAL KILLERS theres no looking at everything and pining smth down for sure you cant. you cant truly comprehend someone like that, theres a million possible reasons why william could be like this, and while no. i dont think he was just capital e Evil brok the day he was born the fact of the matter is we dont have enough info about him BEFORE all of this to be sure.
i think the most likely scenario is that it was a slow incline, its possible he killed small animals before this perhaps in his youth, maybe he accidentally killed someone and it pushed him even further down this path. obviously he didnt just Become this one day, it was most likely a long time coming. again: Normal Well Adjusted Individuals Dont Just Start Serial Murdering Children <3333
and like....... yea...... just. yea....... i dont think its a totally unreasonable conclusion to make. i just dont think its really correct or the Most reasonable all considering.
i just think like, obv we didnt get a true backstory for william afton, there are bits of him we just will not understand and arent relevant to the story at hand, there IS a reason why we dont see further back for him. and ik this might be hard to grasp in a fandom where 95% of everyone tries to piece everything together PERFECTLY to find the FULL TRUE 100% SOLVED answer. but thats just? not the point of fnaf, like in general? i mean if it was we would have a more conclusive timeline wouldnt we? and i just think this is also encapsulated in william afton himself.
my onion 🧅
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gadunkie · 2 years ago
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rant post about the online queer community
hey after going outside and talking to real life people for a while Ive come to the conclusion that most of the online queer community is just horrible for queer people. hi reddit today Im going to ramble on about how the queer space on the internet has somehow regressed back into separation under a more progressive and performative light. so after being on tumblr for like, fucking 7-8 years or some shit as well as experiencing other queer spaces on other social media platforms (twitter and reddit, mostly twitter) for only a couple years, Ive come to the conclusion that people are so caught up in their own asses that theyve completely misunderstood and forgot why the queer community exists. side note: I dont care how messy this post is or if the points made are all over the place, this is tumblr.com who gives a shit.
as far as Im concerned, a lot of non-queer and especially religious people really dont like us queers. unfortunately we were all born in a world where we suffer as a minority under laws and power that would really rather have us killed than working together. as such a collective of queer people started banding together under a community where we were finally allowed a space to be ourselves and live as people. the community consists of fags, dykes, transsexuals and whoever was in-between or outside of those terms. our relation comes from how we are rejected from living normal lives for simply trying to express romance or identity in a way that would finally make us feel alive. so it would only make sense to band together and make sure each of us finally have a home and a life we always wanted to live, surrounded by people who would finally accept us for who we are, right?
ya!!!11!!11one thats the whole point of the queer community, to band together and finally be treated as people. but the one problem that I see nowadays is that the current queer community just doesnt fucking do that. Im bad at formulating problems in an essay-like way so Im just gonna make a list of things and explanations underneath ok? :) :) :) 1. the queer community unfairly fetishes women: now theres nothing wrong with liking women sexually or romantically or whatever, in fact it doesnt correlate with the above sentence at all. Ive noticed in my time on using the internet, that queer people tend to hate or forget people who arent women. whether they are men, or nonbinary, or both, or none at all. women have a much larger audience than other queer people and its stupid. its gotten to the point where I forgot that the trans flag included women, men, and those who dont identify with either. I just got used to seeing them depicted with women or feminine figures that arent cis. I literally didnt make the connection until a few days ago that people other than women completely belong under that community as well, yet Ive seen so much trans discussion that only involve women and no one else. lets change that please, people who dont identify as women belong with the rest of the trans community. I feel ridiculous saying that because I shouldnt feel like I have to even formulate that sentence at all.
2. the majority of the queer community doesnt care about brown people: now there are a lot of online queer people who arent actively or intentionally trying to be racist but I cant help but notice that they tend to forget about brown people a lot, specifically black people now that I think about it a bit more. you guys remember when a new version of the pride flag came out and it looked the exact same but they added brown and black colors onto the flag? strange that at the same time the blm protests were also really popular and part of current events at the time as well, its almost as if it was simply a performative gesture to signify what should have already been obvious. even after those colors were added, black people were just forgotten again. Im not even going to sugarcoat it I dont think the majority of the online queer community would even care if black people just died, because they already dont. but this isnt just about black people either, anyone with darker skin tones, no matter the ethnic group, are either used for diversity gestures or completely forgotten about overall. it has been pointed out multiple times that tumblr staff has actively silenced or banned accounts belonging to brown people. actually the only time I saw tumblr even care about shadow banning was when they started doing it to trans women, what a fucking shit show. its so easy to care about people no matter their skin color its literally so fucking easy, why is it impossible for the majority of this community to do that.
3. why are we fucking separating ourselves from each other: hi Im sure youve noticed that Ive been saying the word "queer" over and over again. first of all, if it bothers you, grow up. the queer community have fought for decades to reclaim phrases used against us dont give it power again. second of all, I prefer saying queer over lgbtqia+ because it unites us all under one word rather than an acronym pointing out each little category of queer people. theres nothing wrong with trying to create an identity for yourself that means a lot to you and makes you feel more comfortable for yourself, but I have to argue and say that certain labels just seem pointless and belong under ones that have already existed before their creation. yet I dont blame people for using different ones than the labels that have already existed because I think we collectively failed to inform people that those labels can have multiple meanings. bisexual doesnt just mean you like cis men and cis women, it means you like anyone you want to. transgender doesnt mean you are now the opposite of your assigned gender, it just means that you arent cis. it also doesnt mean that you need to have surgery done on you or that you wear different clothes than the norm either. although I see the point of creating extra labels, I ultimately think they do more harm than good. we have to stick together to survive, any more individual groups then we are as good as gone.
those are the general points that Ive wanted to make anyway. I would love to type more but I have a feeling that the reading comprehension on this site wouldnt survive the first two paragraphs.
the last thing I want to say is that you should find more ways to be together than try and exclude each other, because while youre calling yourself a "foxgirl bi lesbian enby demiboy" there are queer people in real life being kidnapped and mutilated for simply trying to exist.
please for the love of everything that keeps us alive and safe, find ways to stick together.
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By kh3 hes like borderline jaded. certainly existential in ways that remind me a lot of vanitas himself .
On the contrary silvers trend is that hes softening up a lot. hes being given the space and company to process things now. I wish it happened in the games but ill take it. You know i generally don't have too much issue with the theoretical direction idw is taking with silver on a lot of things. i dont like his dialogue and interactions. its extremely off. But i agree its interesting to see him in a context where he doesnt have to worry about his future and yeah i agree he’d loosen up a bit (A LITTLE BIT…. PLEASE I MEANT A LITTLE BIT) and have anxiety attacks sure. Sonic channel my beloved has quite a few stories with him in lower stakes situations and the way hes written there feels a lot truer to him. Its :| autism not uwu autism. Sega of japan thank you so much for being so real please post another silver story ? one where he has to resort to cannibalism in the future i think thatd be funny as fuck. Maybe hire me
silver actually seemingly needs a lot of emotional support to make decisions in difficult situations (like blaze) and while thats thematically similar to ven’s situation, ven doesnt hesitate to do crazy shit if he thinks he needs to . would you say silver is ever reckless. hes def irritable/easily frustrated yeah?
silver doesnt “need” emotional support to do what he does given hes been alone his whole life fighting iblis. Hes very quick on the draw when it comes to action actually. Any hesitation/doubt is after the fact (times he vents to blaze in 06: after fighting iblis in the early game. blaze tells him to calm down after he punches a wall in agitation over the futility of fighting iblis. then after failing to kill sonic and raising an ethical question where blaze tells him hes going to have to kill anyway. Notably conclusions hes already arrived to. Its more that he needs to be redirected before he spirals. Theres similar interactions between silver and espio/blaze in idw). I will stand that silver has something of an emotional dependency on blaze (he literally says he cant go on without her. And blaze describes him as volatile when alone) but its not really to have blaze help him make decisions. Its a matter beyond his fighting. He has moments of doubt but is still described as almost supernaturally optimistic. Its uh also not just blaze things are shaping up between him and espio now (2 purple friend) but i dont like citing idw *continues to cite idw* 
I dont think its through a lack of consideration of the consequences of his actions (hes rather introspective) but rather a failure of his own logic that he does irrational things. He jumps to extremes too quickly and becomes obsessed with them. Yes he is irritable and easily frustrated. He is a little quick to attack people that set him off to a counterproductive extent. Overall yes he has his brand of recklessness
is this like a p5 “fate worse than death-ing our villains so hard that killing them wouldve been kinder” because If you think about it thats a kind of brutality all its own.
Yeah man that was weirdly brutal i wouldve thought it more in his style to straight up kill eggman nega rather than leave him trapped in rubble to die. I dont know if espios presence affected things there. Leaving eggman nega to die is definitely an espio thing its a faux deep lesson he loves that shit. Come to think of it silver didnt even react to eggman negas pleas. espio was like “You reap what you sow…” while Silvers literally goes “Ok. Bye espio.” Hey silvers friends are weird. Also as i said silver isnt one to show remorse to everyone! 
a) i asked this because ven’s stated personal goal is to become a keyblade master. i don’t know that i’d call ven ambitious exactly but the pursuit of power (in order to better serve his masters & the light) is absolutely a major part of his character. however his (relative) “weakness” is a major element of bbs as well. 
silver has no such thing. His grief around the futility of fighting iblis feels more a matter of circumstance and he tends to put much much more of the liability on his current actions rather than his state of being. as a character in the sonic franchise its a somewhat notable thing that never crosses silvers dialogue. Though he is shown to be rather confident in his strength. for good reason
hearing you describe silver’s selflessness and its intensity (like, a pure and genuine love for humanity itself)
Now that i think of it another thing between shadow and silver can be shadows misanthropy and the nature of humanitys relationship to what theyve gone through. We spoke about silver already but shadow explicitly struggles immensely with misanthropy. Shadow has been victimized by humanity, silver has been victimized with humanity. ventus and vanitas? Though “humanity” is a little more charged on the sonic side of things since shadow isnt a human so its kind of racial beef. Anything i say on silver would be purely speculative since he never makes any mention of distinguishing between mobians and humans though the fact hes lonely makes me think community wasnt easy to find in the future. Given hes rather extroverted id fault the people of the future here lol
after hearing all of this do you think we have a case for ventus being canon silver or are we reducing him to uwulver. vanitas shadow is a shoe-in even despite the whole sonic of it all.
We can make it work. I mean their personalities dont have to completely match. We’ve seen a silver with ventus’ personality in the form of uwuver so why not a ventus with silvers personality. But actually i think everyone should be paired up and have a silly time with each other. Silver and shadow are hedgehogs after all they make wonderful pets
1) i mean ultimately all characterizations can be compelling if written with care and thought but it seems like idw silver suffers moreso from the fact that the people writing him dont (or didnt? lol) seem to care much about portraying him as accurate to his origins, and was more worried about the specific archetype they wanted to portray. ultimately silver can soften up and chill out but if theyre portraying him as an entirely different archetype its going to feel wrong
2) hmm i think this is ultimately points in our favor because i think one of ven's main defining character traits is his recklessness. the biggest difference i'd say is that ven (during bbs' campaign) is relatively thoughtless about what hes doing/why/the consequences of it. Theres a reason vanitas is able to string him along so easily. silver by contrast is really introspective, but you're right in pointing out that this introspection always happens after that. and i did conflate his reliance on blaze with his decision making when in reality you're right he doesn't hesitate. this is cool because ven doesn't hesitate either .
3) while ven does his fair share of video game murder i cant say he fate-worse-than-deaths anyone except for arguably vanitas himself but it seems like (assuming vanitas exists in the current timeline because i dont think thats necessarily guaranteed My Tjeories) if he did get vani stuck in sora's heart it was unintentional
4) yeah he owned when we played the game you were freaking owning me
5) this is really interesting and i've been pondering it. i dont actually think vanitas would describe himself as human in any meaningful way (plus its canon to the novel that he doesnt need to eat because He Is Darkness or w/e). would ven? ambiguous. perhaps too ambiguous for kingdom hearts. he does describe himself as having been "sifted apart" in kh3 (referring to vanitas) but he also tries to appeal to vanitas by saying that "they should get to choose". in this scene he halfway implies that he wants to have darkness in his heart (ie to be a normal person) which says to me that he thinks of himself as distinct from "humans" as they exist in kh canon. why else would he say that the way forward for himself & vanitas is for himself to not be "just light" and to say that vanitas shouldn't be "just darkness". i think it would be way more interesting if he didnt consider himself human though so maybe im reaching
they've both definitely been victimized by humans though. vanitas specifically re: xehanort, but i honestly cannot believe i've gotten this far into detailed vv analysis and I haven't mentioned that ventus' dad tries to murder him 3/4's of the way through bbs. (to stop the x-blade from being formed.) vanitas has been psychologically and physically tortured by a human, and ventus has been stifled, sheltered and betrayed by one.
this is an interesting line of thinking bc ven and vani are probably the only kh characters i would describe as being genuinely inhuman. if you take kh's "every heart has both light & darkness" at face value then it really does imply ven and vanitas are a genuine affront to nature born of human cruelty. kinda shadow and silver of them
6) yeah ive actually been thinking about this and i think shadow would find vanitas annoying. ven makes friends with everyone though
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